ArtPrize is winding down to the vote of the 10. But as we all know, it’s also a social experiment. That part of the premise has moved to the forefront in this second week of this radically open framework.
Last Thursday, at a public ArtPrize event, Deb Rockman, a working professional artist, shared a concern with the founder of ArtPrize, Rick DeVos, about the impact of ArtPrize on Grand Rapids within the professional Art world. Mr. DeVos was reasonable and polite in his response as was the rest of the panel (at 12:25):
Following this public forum, Ms. Rockman was interviewed by Wood TV–you can see the report here:
It all seems reasonable. You may not agree, but you can say it was civil: ideas and ideals upfront, personalities set aside. Since then, there have been 220+ comments on the WOOD-TV site. 93 of them have been from one person who calls himself MofPointillism. MofPointillism has also been leaving negative posts to Deb Rockman’s Facebook page as well. This news report has also lead to others sending Ms. Rockman unkind, personal emails to both her personal and Kendall email addresses. It has reach a point where the admin of KCAD are truly concerned.
You may not agree with anything Ms. Rockman has said and that’s OK. But given the class warfare in many online comments, ArtPrize could be called SpitePrize. Hiding behind an online handle while acting in such a manner is shameful to say the least. This is not right. An email from WOOD-TV states that if 4 complaints are lodged they will remove him from the thread. It’s completely agreeable to disagree but this is beyond the pale. If you support a civil discourse please ask for MofPointillism to be removed.
Also, please pass this along: ArtPrize, an open framework is not an open season to abuse or threaten those with whom you disagree. Support a civil discourse.
Deb deserves appreciation for having the guts to say what she did. She was a teacher of mine in school and she is a great person and artist. I don’t entirely agree (especially the doctor analogy) but she deserves respect for her opinion. It’s very unfortunate that she’s been attacked in this way.
I don’t think, however, that this sort of negative commenting on the WOOD site is anything unusual tho. It is a byproduct of WOOD’s decision to allow anonymous commenting. It creates exactly this vile sort of stuff. Flamers, trolls, all of this is because people don’t have to stand by what they say in a public forum. It’s great that The Rapidian has decided to not allow anonymous commenting. I’m going to make a story suggestion that a Citizen Reporter from the Rapidian contact Deb for an interview.
Amy
A very nice Topic. Thanks alot hope you go for the detail next time!
I love these articles. How many words can a wsordmtih smith?
Actually, I did just that when I read all the comments a week or so ago. I was astounding by the voracity of the poster going by the name of MofPointillism. My complaint to WOODTV was that the comments of this poster were escalating to the point of feeling threatening and the irrelevant inclusion in nearly every one of the comments of links to Professor Rockman’s professional website felt unnecessarily intrusive. I also sensed an undertone of violence that had me wondering about Professor Rockman’s personal safety and I feared for her even though we’ve only met once or twice and spoken in passing. As an artist and a woman, I asked that WOODTV consider removing every comment made by this poster — at the very least, it just became creepy and at the worst — the potential to commit or incite harm to Professor Rockman’s person or reputation seemed a very real possibility. I hope WOODTV reconsiders and changes it’s policy from anonymous posting to requiring real names be used.
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I find it curious that you felt ‘threatened’ by anything I said, but Deb didn’t seem to feel the need to do anything about the posts, like you did. Are you just an overly ‘sensitive’ person? If I or Deb didn’t want our information out on the internet then neither one of us would have a professional website, lol. Just because you “sensed an undertone of violence that had me wondering about Professor Rockman’s personal safety and I feared for her even though we’ve only met once or twice and spoken in passing” is really the most ignorant thing that I’ve heard in a long time. “the potential to commit or incite harm to Professor Rockman’s person or reputation seemed a very real possibility” when she opened her mouth in public and said what she did. The fact that you felt threatened by facts and words is very scary. I did not say anything even remotely violent or threatening, lol. I can remember others on that forum that were far less articulate, but much more vocal about what they ‘thought’ and what they’d like to do about it. So that leads me to think that there is some other issue that you have here. What is it? http://www.linkedin.com/in/mejaneink http://activerain.com/blogsview/430373/Grand-Rapi… and least we not forget: mejaneink@comcast.net
For those interested, MrPatulski had several comments on that forum, as well: “Thank you Deb Rockman for stepping up and speaking truth to the the organizers of ArtPrize. It has been a great thing for everyone but the Artists, who like doctors, lawyers and athletes have a professional practice. Anyone can show creativity but few make Art just as few individuals can bat .400 or present a case to the Supreme Court.
To call someone an elitist simply because they finished school, worked hard, continue to improve themselves and wish to raise an issue of concern for their community, calmly and in an articulate manner is frankly inappropriate and rude. Would you talk to your parents or children in such a manner, a pastor or a police officer? No. Make your point on the merits, with your real name or go home, you lack the ability to play with others.”
To which someone else made this point: “No, this art professor is an embarassment to the the GR community. When Matisse and Picasso and Monet ‘s works were first shown, they were mocked and laughed at by the art establishment of the time.
Art is a subjective experience. No one group ‘owns’ what ‘art’ is. She is one of the many academic snobs (those that cannot do, teach?) who assumes they are the true owners of culture. They are not. The creative arts can thrive with or without academia. I would have preferred NO contest, just an art show, as I dont think that art should be contested. Nonetheless, this lady needs to get off her high horse. She is a laughingstock.” And that person was NOT me .…
It’s funny that ‘Jane Vanderlaan’ complains about “anonymous posting” since it seems she posted on that forum as ‘localart’, LOL!!!! Read for yourself and see if you do not agree it’s possible: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/artprize/Could_GR_becom… what a hypocrite .….….….…
Here is a sample of one of my supposed ‘threatening’ comments: “Actually, I can’t believe I’m doing this but, Deb’s art is very good. It’s when she tries to slap her views on it and hit the viewer over the head with her political statements, like this: http://www.debrockman.com/waging/*****.html that it destroys her pieces. Could be why she doesn’t sell much art and has complained publicly that there are not many people in GR that are ‘brave enough’ to own her pieces. Like someone in their right mind would hang that anywhere, let alone their house … ” Wow! I’d be shacking in my sandals if I were Deb .…
Here is another ‘threatening’ comment: “Deb has some points, if this were the normal run-of-the-mill kind of art contest where something like this could win: http://www.debrockman.com/waging/*****.html . However, this is not your art teacher’s, or professor’s, kind of contest, where someone with a PhD judges what is and is not ‘Art’. This is a better version of ‘American Idol’ made for the art world, where anyone and everyone can judge for themselves, instead of having a ‘professional’ tell them just what ‘Art’ is. Deb has complained in the past that the people of this region, and town, don’t seem to have the ‘courage’ to buy her works. Most of the people I know who are not ‘professional’ artists or critics would find it hard to explain why they bought a wonderfully drawing of a dog with a derogatory word covering most of the picture. ArtPrize is not the Oscars of the art world, it’s more like the People’s Choice Awards, and to try to make it into the Oscars is to go against the spirit of the contest.
Her statement about being a professional was elitist, and that is something most people can not swallow, along with her work. Art is what it is, no mater if the viewer likes it or not. It doesn’t matter is it was created by a ‘professional’, an amateur, or a five year old kid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Kid_Could_Paint_T…